In response to atheists constantly misusing the celestial teapot analogy


I’m tired of hearing amateur atheists say, “Would you expect me to believe there’s a tea pot orbiting around the earth? No. So why would you expect me to believe in God?” When atheists say things like this they’re alluding to”Russell’s Teapot”aka “The Celestial Teapot,” which is a quote from Bertrand Russel, which states:

“If I were to suggest that between the Earth Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.” – Bertrand Russell

Okay. So this quote correctly suggests that if you claim something absurd exists then it would be absurd for anyone to believe you outright. It also correctly points out how fallible humans can be, especially in large groups. When an idea becomes popular enough people tend to accept it as truth. Once an idea has been accepted as true people tend to reaffirm their beliefs to themselves and defend their beliefs against opposition. Psychologists call this cognitive bias, and everyone does it. Furthermore, once people latch onto a belief and define their reality by that belief they’ll tend to hold onto that belief even after they’ve been shown evidence disproving their belief. They make mind bending excuses and shut themselves off to reason to protect their reality even though doing this only twists their reality further. Psychologists call this cognitive dissonance, and everyone does it. Organized religion is probably the best example of cognitive dissonance in human history. Countless lives have been wasted, destroyed and ended as a result of organized religion pushing preposterous falsities on society and refusing to amend their ways even after their position has been disproven by reasonable evidence.

Bertrand Russel was right about these points, but the quote has nothing to with the proving that God doesn’t exist or at least that the chances of God existing are so slim that one should reject the idea of God until God’s existence has been conclusively proven (which isn’t likely to ever happen).

But, since since the topic has been breached, let’s go ahead and analyze this common misinterpretation anyway. If/when an atheist says something like this: “Would you expect me to believe there’s a tea pot orbiting around the earth? No. So why would you expect me to believe in God?” I would say that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The fact that I can’t find any floating tea pots or leprechauns or unicorns anywhere around where I live doesn’t conclusively prove that they don’t exist somewhere in the universe. In fact, scientific thought demands that I leave open the possibility that they exist. Anything less would be close minded. Does that mean then that I go about my life searching for and worrying about leprechauns and unicorns? No.  I’m going to go about my life as normal, dealing with the realities of my life while keeping an open mind to the fact that new evidence may one day be presented to me which will change my perception of reality.

Having said that, it’s fair enough to have faith that there isn’t a teapot floating in the sky, but that really has nothing to do with whether or not God exists because the teapot is a stand-alone theoretical construct; God is not. I’ll explain what I mean by using an analogy of my own:

Suppose two men are standing in front of a fence. We’ll call them Mr. A and Mr. T. The fence is infinitely tall and stretches infinitely to their left. It ends a few meters to the right of where they’re standing. As they’re standing there a ball rolls out from behind the fence.

Mr. A turns to Mr. T and says, “What do you suppose set that ball in motion?”

Mr. T replies, “I don’t know. Maybe a person pushed it. Maybe the wind blew it.”

Mr. A replies, “Can you prove that there’s an invisible teapot in the sky?”

Mr. T replies, “No.”

Mr. A Replies, “Then a person couldn’t possibly have set that ball in motion. Therefore, the only logical solution is that the wind pushed the ball.”

Now, an inanimate force of nature may indeed have set the ball in motion, but arguing over the existence of a theoretical, invisible teapot has nothing to do with determining the cause of an  actual, observable phenomenon. The only way to understand the cause of an observable phenomenon is by reverse engineering the cause and effect chain of events that led up to the event in question.

The universe exists. Something set it in motion. Somehow intelligent life materialized out of the inanimate matter the universe is made out of. If you can believe that intelligent life arose from inanimate matter, is it really any more of a stretch to suggest that inanimate matter arose from  intelligent life? Yes and no, because both scenarios are equally absurd and seemingly impossible…and yet here we are.

At any rate, the point is that we don’t know why or how the universe or life exists. Until we can pull back the curtain of time and see what happened before the Big Bang we’ll probably never find empirical evidence for why the ball rolled out from behind the fence.  Until we know that for sure we’ll never know what set the universe in motion and thus whether or not there was any conscious or otherwise logically operating catalyst.

There’s a lot here that professed atheists and agnostics can argue about, but one thing is certain: bickering about the existence of hypothetical celestial teapots or fairies  that may or may not exist in the universe doesn’t address the question of how the universe was created and set in motion. Therefore, when you use Russell’s Teapot strictly as an argument against the existence of God you’re using a straw man argument.

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6 Responses to “In response to atheists constantly misusing the celestial teapot analogy”

  • Kaosu

    This is a pretty good deconstruction. I think, though, that you left out an area where the argument is weakest and that is with the analogy between God and a teapot.

    The reason why the celestial teapot argument ultimately breaks down is that for (philosophically sophisticated) theists God is not an object or a physical phenomena existing in the universe like a teapot orbiting Mars (or like an angry unicorn on the dark side of the moon, to use Edward Abbey’s version of Russell’s teapot). Rather, for theists God is the condition for the possibility of anything like a universe or the physical phenomena therein existing at all. God is not an existant amongst other existants, but the source of existence itself. As such one can’t compare a contingent physical being in the universe with a non-physical, non-contingent transcendent ground of being.

    This of course is using a classical definition of God developed by theists like Anselm, Aquinas, Ibn Sina, Maimonides, etc. There may be very good arguments for not believing in their understanding of God, but Russell’s teapot ain’t one of them.

    For theists of the Ray Comfort variety, of course, Russell’s teapot and most other arguments in the standard issue Atheist grab bag work quite well.

    • NotASheep

      As to your statement: “In fact, scientific thought demands that I leave open the possibility that they exist. Anything less would be close minded.” So, I should leave open the possibility of anything that I could imagine to exist? At what point does evidence come in to the picture? This seems to border on the No True Scotsman fallacy. After all, a TRUE scientist will have to leave open the possibility the earth revolves around Jupiter instead of the sun if I say so. Just because I say so.

      • wise sloth

        From a scientific point of view, yes, you should leave open the possibility of anything that you could imagine to exist until it’s been proven not to exist. There’s nothing sinister about that, and it doesn’t even mean you have to half-believe in the existence of things you haven’t seen or give credence to people who assert that things like ghosts or fairies or God exist. Nor does it mean you have to go around thinking about the potential existence of every unseen thing all day. It simply means that until you have conclusive evidence, there’s no reason to assert that something you’ve never seen doesn’t exist.

        A true scientist would leave open any possibility until he/she is presented with enough evidence to make a case one way or the other. A true scientist would not accept hearsay as evidence. A true scientist would not have faith that absence of evidence is evidence of absence. So the point where evidence comes in the picture is the point where it is presented. Once there’s evidence to analyze, you can study it objectively. Until then objectivity is a passive way of looking at the universe.

  • Bleu

    “The universe exists. Something set it in motion. Somehow intelligent life materialized out of the inanimate matter the universe is made out of. If you can believe that intelligent life arose from inanimate matter, is it really any more of a stretch to suggest that inanimate matter arose from intelligent life? Yes and no, because both scenarios are equally absurd and seemingly impossible…and yet here we are.”

    Strawman. You’re mixing Big Bang and the origin of the universe with abiogenesis. They are too separate issues.
    “life originating from inanimate matter is impossible” Really? How so? What are your sources? Here’s a hint: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/

    Finally, the point of the Celestial Teapot is to point out how even the most unlikely and absurd things with no scientifical evidence supporting them “can” be true, or, at least, how we can’t rule them out with 100% certainty.

    In paralel, the origins of life and the big bang theory are explained by scientific theory without need for a magical bronze age wizard in the sky doing magic. Do we know what was lit like before the Big Bang? Do we know about the laws of physics in that state and time? I’d say we don’t know as much as we’d like to, but then again that can’t just be replaced with “I don’t know so god must have done it”.

    Also, nothing that you’ve posted serves as scientific evidence and reasonable proof or justification for the existence of God, which, in your case I presume (and only presume) that is the judeo christian God. Assuming that God set the Big Bang in motion is as much of a good guess as saying that Satan or a Teapot did it, also cohexisting with the fact that so far there’s no scientific, logical reason to involve anything supernatural in anything.

    Apologies for spelling/grammar mistakes since English is not my main language.

    • wise sloth

      The Big Bang, the origin of the universe and abiogenesis are all part of the same problem, and humans have yet to fully understand or explain the catalyst for the Big Bang, the creation of the universe or why life exists. And I didn’t say abiogensis was impossible. I said it was “seemingly impossible.”

      Many people use Russell’s Teapot to argue that claims with little to no scientific evidence should be dismissed outright. The point of the blog is to refute that point of view, not to argue what the true meaning of Bertrand Russell’s words.

      You presumed incorrectly that I believe in the Judeo Christian God or that a bronze age wizard created the universe. There was nothing in this post to serve as scientific evidence and reasonable proof or justification for the existence of God because that wasn’t the goal of the blog. But since you bring it up, here’s some food for thought: http://wisesloth.wordpress.com/2010/03/28/an-agnostic-take-on-intelligent-design/

  • Rachel Johnson

    Armchair theologians. Got to love em.

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